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McCain Respects Hillary?

by hootie4170, Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 12:18:41 AM EST

John McCain and his campaign are currently trying to court the so-called "Angry Women Voters" from the Democrats. These women are identified by their support for Hillary Clinton in the 2008 primary and their disgust with the DNC, MSM and the Obama Campaign for failing to "call-out" sexist activity.

John McCain's new blogger on his website, Michael Goldfarb, has posted a new blog the Arizona Senator's website and states:

She ran an impressive campaign, and proved herself to be an impressive candidate and as John McCain has said, inspired a generation of women. Ultimately, and ironically, it seems she fell victim to a vast left-wing conspiracy that resented her generally centrist foreign policy views.

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But it's clear that John McCain and Hillary Clinton respect each other -- and there is a genuine affection for her here at McCain HQ.

What Mr. Goldfarb fails to mention is that he has a been a very vocal critic of Mrs. Clinton during the primary season....

Still, I'm surprised that anyone can be surprised by the Clinton's lies anymore.

All politicians lie, and the Clintons more than most. I can't imagine that voters haven't already internalized this reality...

Samantha Power has resigned from her role as foreign policy adviser to the Obama campaign. Her offense:

"[Clinton] is a monster, too - that is off the record - she is stooping to anything," Ms Power said, hastily trying to withdraw her remark.

First off, tell us something we don't know.

Frank Rich writes in the NY Times today that the McCain campaign is relying on Democratic women to have short memories in regards to McCain and friends treatment of women and HRC in particular.

TEN years ago John McCain had to apologize for regaling a Republican audience with a crude sexual joke about Hillary and Chelsea Clinton and Janet Reno. Last year he had to explain why he didn't so much as flinch when a supporter asked him on camera, "How do we beat the bitch?" But these days Mr. McCain just loves the women.

And here are a couple other stances Mr. McCain takes in his fierce "support" of women..

You'd never guess that Mr. McCain is a fierce foe of abortion rights or that he voted to terminate the federal family-planning program that provides breast-cancer screenings.

Mr. Rich goes on to say that women know exactly what John McCain is trying to do, and the are not buying it.

But while the McCain campaign apparently believes that women are easy marks for its latent feminist cross-dressing, a reality check suggests that most women can instantly identify any man who's hitting on them for selfish ends.

LINKS
http://johnmccain.com/mccainreport/Read. aspx?guid=eb8dcdb7-88b9-4842-935c-51c3bb 50cbe8

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TW SFP/2008/03/hitchens_on_hillarys_lies.as p

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TW SFP/2008/03/monstergate.asp

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/15/opinio n/15rich.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&o ref=slogin

Tags: Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Barack Obama, 2008 Presidential Election (all tags)

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A useless "Community Organizer" from Pennsylvania as noted by Republicans, Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin

by hootie4170 on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 12:19:24 AM EST

Re: McCain Respects Hillary? (2.00 / 1)

Anybody who is paying attention knows exactly what Mccain is doing. The concern, in my eyes is not people going to McCain, but those who don't vote at all. I am waiting for Obama to sell me on his candidacy, but would never vote for McCain. But of course the media is missing this. Although McCain understands what is going on. It is just pathetic pandering and he has been doing it from Day one.

by Scotch on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 12:32:26 AM EST

Re: McCain Respects Hillary? (2.00 / 1)

What is it you still need from Obama? Seriously. I hear people say that Obama hasn't sold his candidacy yet but I'm not sure what people are missing. Barack Obama is not Hillary Clinton and doesn't have all the strengths she has. But he has other strengths.

by elrod on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 12:36:51 AM EST
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I have to warm up to him. I still don't like him, and I have a very bad taste in my mouth for him. I would like him to somehow ease that before November. I can't help it. It's a gut feeling that won't go away, even if I want it to.

by Scotch on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 12:43:40 AM EST
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I understand that. (2.00 / 2)

As a Dean supporter, I had a visceral dislike to Kerry, and I still voted for Kerry.

by slinkerwink on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:07:02 AM EST
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Re: McCain Respects Hillary? (2.00 / 1)

Fair enough. I was that way re: Edwards in 2004. I even voted for Edwards in Illinois LONG after Kerry sowed up the nomination.

by elrod on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:42:31 AM EST
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Suckers (2.00 / 3)

I'm shocked that some people would actually believe that people like Goldfarb or Fox News actually cared about Hillary Clinton's voters. They are the worst and most cynical liars in America. They HATE Hillary Clinton - much more than Chris Matthews or Keith Olbermann or the hardest of hardcore Obamamanic. They cannot undo all the atrocious things they've said about Hillary Clinton over the years.

by elrod on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 12:34:44 AM EST

Re: Suckers (2.00 / 5)

When people hate the outcome of certain contests they will look anywhere for justification of their vengeful actions. This takes nothing away from the fact that sexism has and will be applied in our elections...I just find it outrageous that a person who is so adamant about sexism and it's existence would vote for a man whose policies and life decisions demean women so greatly.

A useless "Community Organizer" from Pennsylvania as noted by Republicans, Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin

by hootie4170 on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 12:41:12 AM EST
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I'm sure most women (2.00 / 2)

will see through this tactic easily. John McCain can spin all he wants, but it's pretty obvious that he's not terribly fussed about women's rights.

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.

by sricki on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 12:39:32 AM EST

Re: I'm sure most women (2.00 / 1)

I know what your saying sricki, unfortunately I feel a good portion of women do not follow as closely as they should. I bring my mother up as an example, she was raised Catholic and Republican, and thats how she voted...If it wasn't for me getting involved in Obama's campaign I would have never discussed why she is republican. When I asked what she thought about issues it was a no-brainer.

A useless "Community Organizer" from Pennsylvania as noted by Republicans, Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin

by hootie4170 on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 12:45:39 AM EST
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My mother is a Republican, too, (2.00 / 1)

which means she's determined to vote against her own interests (and mine), no matter what. I'm hoping most Democratic women (and men) will eventually be appalled by McCain on multiple levels. But we definitely have a lot of work to do.

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.

by sricki on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 12:52:53 AM EST
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Let's not forget (none / 0)

there are women who, themselves, are sexists.

My grandmother, for example, is a Republican. She said early in the campaign that she was certain the GOP nominee would win in the end, because it would either be Hillary, whom she figured would be easily beatable, or if Clinton didn't win, she'd try to destroy the chances of whoever won, because "that's what women do"

She went on about how when women don't get their way, they seek revenge by making everyone else's lives miserable.

A WOMAN said that, can you believe it?

The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.

by nrafter530 on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 02:02:13 AM EST
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Very true. (2.00 / 1)

I live in the South, and my great aunt told me a few months ago that Hillary shouldn't be running for president because, "That's a man's job."

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.

by sricki on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 02:06:33 AM EST
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Re: McCain Respects Hillary? (none / 0)

I think it is obvious what he is doing. As a Clinton supporter my choices are to either vote for Obama or stay home - I would never actually give the GOP or McCain a vote - I can't vote FOR what he stands for & more then likely I will act out with a vote AGAINST the GOP.

by jrsygrl on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 12:45:21 AM EST

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I honestly applaud your pragmatism.

by Reaper0Bot0 on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:03:45 AM EST
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Thank you. I guess where my personal issue lay is that I wish I had a candidate I could get behind - I was itching for it (and there were others besides Clinton I would've supported). I don't say that to be divisive; I think it has been my point when having discussion here. But I don't see how voting for McCain would do anything but harm for the country (women's issues are of course important to me but they don't comprise everything that concerns me and McCain is bad across the board).

by jrsygrl on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:20:18 AM EST
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I was the same re: Kerry and Bush. Yeah, I agreed with Kerry on the issues. But I couldn't stand the guy. Yet, I voted for him without question because the alternative was worse than Mephistopheles.

by elrod on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:44:33 AM EST
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I could never understand why people didn't like Kerry. Regardless, I think there is an extra level of concern regarding what Obama will actually be capable of delivering. Of course I am going to vote for whom I ideologically have the most in common with though; to support McCain who stands for everything I am opposed & would have the ability to deliver on his threats (I mean promises) would be insane.

by jrsygrl on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 12:31:23 PM EST
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Women have been fooled during this primary by the Democratic Party as well. I don't believe many women thought Democrats could be so much like the Republicans. Democrats and Republicans are equal offenders in the treatment of Mrs. Clinton.

Frank Rich is another pig who has written horrible opinion columns in the NYT about Hillary Clinton. Rich is the pot calling the kettle black. I believe women realize old Frank is full of manure.

We all know what's wrong with McCain. Where exactly is the Democratic Party on women's issues? What makes the Democrats so much better?

"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her." - Susan B. Anthony

by feelfree on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 12:48:28 AM EST

Re: McCain Respects Hillary? (2.00 / 2)

Frankly, even if every grievance you had was legit and correct (and I do not concede them), you'd still have to accept the fact that the Democratic Party has fought for better pay for women, maternity leave, and abortion rights. The Democratic Party tends to nominate judges to the federal bench who are supportive of those things.

Just sayin'.

Oh, and what are the odds that a woman would have done as well in the Republican primary?

by Reaper0Bot0 on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:05:25 AM EST
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Oh man. I can't imagine how many elections we are away from a female Republican presidential candidate (nevermind a non-white one of either gender).

should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?

by Firewall on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:10:51 AM EST
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I sure hope when that female Republican presidential candidate runs, I hope she is treated fairly by the media and her party. This would be a whole lot better than how the most viable female candidate in the Democratic Party was treated.

"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her." - Susan B. Anthony

by feelfree on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:44:06 AM EST
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Better pay? You mean that 76 cents for every dollar a man earns?

Abortion rights? Blackmun who authored the opinion in Roe was a Republican who was appointed by a Republican, Nixon. Blackmun was a defender of abortion rights and a woman's right to choose.

Maternity leave? I could be wrong but I have never heard of a maternity leave standard. Some companies offer it, some don't.

"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her." - Susan B. Anthony

by feelfree on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:36:47 AM EST
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Blackmun is a pariah in the GOP.

The Dems pushed for equal pay acts this year and other years. McCain voted against it.

On Maternity leave, the Dems supported FMLA, Republicans opposed it.

by elrod on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:46:21 AM EST
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FMLA is one good mark for the democrats.

"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her." - Susan B. Anthony

by feelfree on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 02:16:13 AM EST
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"Blackmun who authored the opinion in Roe was a Republican who was appointed by a Republican,"

A Republican in the 1960's. Even Hillary Clinton was a Republican in the 1960's. There's a reason why she isn't anymore and Blackmun probably wouldn't be either.

The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.

by nrafter530 on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 02:04:15 AM EST
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Following your logic Nixon should have become a Democrat too.

Blackmun was appointed in 1970. Roe came a few years later.

"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her." - Susan B. Anthony

by feelfree on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 02:22:39 AM EST
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I wouldn't doubt the possibility (none / 0)

Nixon might be a Democrat today.

Hell, his daughter is supporting Obama.

The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.

by nrafter530 on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 02:44:33 AM EST
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Re: I wouldn't doubt the possibility (none / 0)

Yeah right Nixon would be a Democrat if he were alive today.

"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her." - Susan B. Anthony

by feelfree on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 03:01:47 AM EST
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Re: I wouldn't doubt the possibility (none / 0)

Nixon created the EPA and also opened up diplomatic relations with China.

There are a lot of things he did that would not fit at all within today's Republican Party. I'm not saying I would want him in our party, but yes, he may well have become a Democrat.

Goldwater certainly wound up in a similar position.

by Reaper0Bot0 on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 08:35:08 AM EST
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Re: I wouldn't doubt the possibility (none / 0)

Nixon lived about 20 years or so after he left office in disgrace. For real, there were no signs he was going to become a member of the Democratic Party.

"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her." - Susan B. Anthony

by feelfree on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 04:41:06 PM EST
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It's remarkable to me (none / 0)

How many posters there are here who are quick to defend the Republicans or McCain out of the need to "be fair" but happy to tear down the Democrats and smear Obama.

Very interesting.

Hillary is voting for Obama, so why aren't you?

by BrighidG on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 06:08:41 AM EST
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Re: McCain Respects Hillary? (none / 0)

As an ardent Clinton admirer who, to put it mildly is not too thrilled with Obama as the nominee, I agree with the first part of what you posted regarding how Hillary Clinton has been treated by the party. As a woman I always knew, of course, that misogyny existed, but I naively believed that things were not this bad & that these attitudes at the very least would be recognized by my own party when they began to pervade conversations. This primary has jaded & concerned me as a woman, when it comes to realizing how I must be really viewed in certain settings & I don't think my perception will ever be the same. Trust me when I say I feel as though a part of my soul has been corrupted; it is very hurtful.

That being said, as a party from a policy standpoint the Democrats are much more likely & in fact probably will support SC nominees (and its not just about Roe v. Wade & other aspects of reproductive choice that are at issue), bills, policies & laws that will help to continuously progress our country in the right direction; wherein eventually these attitudes will have been weaned out of everyday discourse. The bottom line is we stand NO chance with the GOP in terms of equal rights in the workplace, divorce laws, medical rights, reproductive rights etc. to become closer to equality. With the Democratic party their platforms always bring us closer to the objective. So in essence from a policy stand point the differences are black/white; one party will legally continue the progression of our country the other will legally have a regressive effect. So from an objective unemotional standpoint, I realize as a woman the stated ideals of the Democratic party are what is in my best interest.

Does that make sense to you?

by jrsygrl on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 12:39:13 PM EST
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Re: McCain Respects Hillary? (none / 0)

Not really. "Closer to equality" is like telling a slave they are almost free. Why do women continue to wait for equal pay in 2008? Why is it still a chance in 2008?

Democrats have not launched a vigorous effort on a feminist issue in three decades.

What you are telling Democratic women is they should continue to accept crumbs from the Democratic Party.

We deserve a generous slice of the cake.

"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her." - Susan B. Anthony

by feelfree on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 04:38:11 PM EST
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Re: McCain Respects Hillary? (none / 0)

I agree that we deserve equality now. As a working woman I experience sexism on a regular basis. Trust me I know. What I am saying is that right now we only have 2 choices - one that would turn the clock backwards & regress our movement or another that would still continue to set the framework for progress. So that is the bottom line. Does it make me happy? No. Do I agree with you in philosophy? Yes. But I have to get up every morning & go to work & I know that I can choose to have my life get harder or progress towards being better.

It is more akin to telling a minority that they can either look towards be enslaved again or make forward progress towards equality but not at the pace that it should be. Those are your choices end of story. To vote for the former out of protest, in the end, is the same thing as cutting off your nose to spite your face. We all lose, including the individual who makes the protest vote - know what I mean?

And trust me - the people here have not liked my opinions about Obama (although I think I have been respectful in the way I voiced them) & I have been beyond outraged, offended & deeply disturbed by what I saw happening in this primary. So I am with you but I cannot support turning the movement backwards as a method of protest. That just doesn't make sense to me, you know?

by jrsygrl on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 06:33:49 PM EST
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McCain did vote for (2.00 / 2)

President Clinton's impeachment. If that is not disrespect, I don't know what it.

by Lakrosse on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 12:53:12 AM EST

Re: McCain did vote for (2.00 / 2)

Good point

A useless "Community Organizer" from Pennsylvania as noted by Republicans, Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin

by hootie4170 on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 12:56:54 AM EST
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He doesn't respect Hillary, but he sure is working her voters. His people are pretending to take them seriously. They are empathizing and tell them that their anger is justified and that Hillary Clinton was a great candidate.

Other progressives are telling them to get over it, that the sexism was in their heads, and that Hillary was a flawed candidate.

Which message is going to be more successful?

Linfar's co-blogger opposing John McCain

by psychodrew on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:28:51 AM EST

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Obama's campaign and surrogates are saying this? I must of missed it...

Other progressives are telling them to get over it, that the sexism was in their heads, and that Hillary was a flawed candidate.

A useless "Community Organizer" from Pennsylvania as noted by Republicans, Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin

by hootie4170 on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:36:12 AM EST
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Don't put words in my mouth! (2.00 / 1)

I didn't say his campaign was saying that. That is the message coming from the progressive blogosphere and the progressive commentariat.

Linfar's co-blogger opposing John McCain

by psychodrew on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:42:04 AM EST
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Re: Don't put words in my mouth! (none / 0)

No, the progressive commentariat is telling the so-called Hillary-for-McCain voters that they are being duped and that McCain despises Hillary Clinton and mocks her agenda.

by elrod on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:48:14 AM EST
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Re: McCain Respects Hillary? (none / 0)

John Mccain does respect Hillary Rodham Clinton , she and Bill has made that much clear .

They are close friends and have high regard for each other , that should be obvious.

He is obviously working hard to woo her erstwhile supporters , I don't see what is wrong with that .

Obama would do the same if he were in his issues.

Whether it would work depends on the voters , we would know soon enough.

However she pretty much seems to have a closer personal relationship with Mccain than Obama.

Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.

by lori on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:46:13 AM EST
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By the way Frank Rick is not someone I hold in high regard.

He and Maureen are pretty much useless in my view.

Wonder whats going on with the NY Times these days.

Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.

by lori on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:48:51 AM EST
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McCain= con artist? (2.00 / 1)

people are getting conned; obviously McCain is taking advantage of these people's emotions but what can you do?

you can repeat the issues over and over again, but it means shit when the person you're talking to doesn't want to listen.

lemon716, mydd's little lemon drop;

by alyssa chaos on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 01:49:42 AM EST

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Good Diary Hootie. Rec and rated

Barack Obama is my President

by Jeter on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 03:50:35 AM EST

Which reminds me (2.00 / 1)

A simple Google search will come up with thousands of articles about the discontent and anger at the Republican Party by moderate to centrist Republican women. And they had bigger complaints than just republicans virulent anti-Roe stand. I have absolute faith in the intelligence and deep-rooted pragmatism and strength of women. They demonstrate it every day. It doesn't take a pro-choice woman mush to see he's selling a sack of sorrow and lies tied up with a ribbon. No women is that out of it that they will fall for that tired old tactic that has been used against them forever. Women will decide this election (and many other elections) and I know my sisters. Damn straight they have a lot to be pissed off about. Impatience with and arguing with people just makes them more angry - that goes for men and women. I've often said that without women that this world would be meaningless and really stupid. I stand by that opinion, which I contend is a fact.

Barack Obama is my President

by Jeter on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 04:05:52 AM EST

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Why should the Obama crowd be upset with McCain's not coming to the defense of HRC regarding the "bitch" remeark? Every Obama supporter I know has constantly referred to HRC as "that bitch".

by handsomegent on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 09:20:48 AM EST

Obama himself (none / 0)

has not...and he has not condoned the use of the language. McCain laughed it off.

The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.

by nrafter530 on Mon Jun 16, 2008 at 10:18:20 AM EST
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